MRF-458 and MRF-454 Final Replacement

(comments posted by W9GB to qrz.com forum)

AG6JU commented: TEN TEC OMNI-V Final AMP MRF-458 burned out several days ago, so I replaced them with 2SC2879, readjusted bias. It worked OK, except at the 10 meter band the RF output was 75 watts instead of 100 watts. Just in case somebody have same problem. MRF-458 is difficult to obtain.

W9GB responded: The Toshiba 2SC2879 is a well known RF transistor as well …. The difference between the Toshiba 2SC2879 and the 2SC2879A is that the “A” version is RoHS compliant, and uses an Aluminum Nitrite insulator (color gray) on the header vs. Berillium Oxide (color white). The "A" part will have a RED dot after the "9" in die stamping. This Toshiba part sell for $33-$35 each at RF Parts.

The Motorola MRF-458 was also used in the Ten Tec Omni VI+ HF transceiver. Al, W6WQC provided these insights 10 years ago (December 2002) on the TenTec forums: http://lists.contesting.com/_tentec/2002-12/msg00383.html

The Motorola MRF-454 is indeed a suitable replacement for the MRF-458 transistors as reported originally by W6LX. Both parts use the 211-11 package. The MRF-454A and the MRF-458A are respectively identical electrically BUT are in a different package. DO NOT use these "A" parts.

BTW, M/A-COM continues to produce the MRF-454 !! The M/A-COM MRF-454 RF transistor is a current production and "off-shelf" part. Mouser has them for $55 each (cheaper in qty) with over 100 In Stock !! Mouser Part #: 937-MRF454

IN ADDITION, RF PARTS stocks both the Motorola and M/A-COM MRF-454 ($43-$45) and Motorola MRF-458 ($24) parts !! http://www.rfparts.com/transistors_MRF-TP.html == The 1983 Motorola data book shows that the MRF-454 is a somewhat more rugged transistor than the MRF-458. The MRF-454 is spec'd at 20 amps continuous collector current and a power dissipation of 250 watts while the MRF-458 is spec'd at a collector current of 10 amps and a dissipation of 175 watts.

Both have an identical gain of 12 dB, power out of 80 watts and 50 percent efficiency.

The MRF454 has higher maximum Vceo and Vcbo ratings.

The MRF 454 has a higher gain at 30 mhz: 90 watts for 5 watts of drive while the MRF-458 is spec'd at 70 watts for 5 watts of drive. The 1994 data book lists the MRF-454 as a direct replacement for the MRF-458.

Soldering

while every tech has his or her own style, here's how I do it.

you're 35 watt iron should be fine. You don't want to lift the copper from the board!

while the soldering iron is warming, draw, photograph or take some kind of notes so you know what goes where. Most likely you'll need to unsolder feedback capacitors and resistors, so make damn sure you know where they go.

you'll need some, make that lots, of solder wick. Get the good stuff and not from china. You want it at least 1/4 in wide.

suck up as much as you can and then try and get even more off the pcb.

then when a sharp knife (I use an xacto) slip under the tabs and with heat applied to loosen any left over solder, gently lift the tabs up from the pcb

the collectors have the tip of their tabs cut at an angle. Make sure you document how the transistor (S) go in. They can easily be flipped 180 deg and you'll never know it.

I don't recall what they used for the pa, but get some thermal goo and apply a thin layer onto the heatsink and device. Thin is better than a big glop.

I go for the base first. I can then use a VOM to do a resistance check on the remaining leads. Bet you'll find a base to collector short.

And while I'm in there, I'll lift the base leads of the drivers and look at them as well.

I've had great success using my weller WTCP iron with a 35 watt element and a large chisel tip.

and you need lots of solder wick.

the two emitter leads are the hardest as they are mounted to the largest amount of copper on the pcb

mike, wb8vge


A bigger (higher power) iron means more heat capacity and faster heating, so less time to destroy things. A 35 watt is fine. I would not try a 15 watt. Even if it is temperature controlled, the big wide tabs and PCB copper will sink the heat from the iron and drop the temperature below the set value of the iron. But you do not want a higher temperature, which will burn things up, like the PCB material, or separate the copper from the fiberglass. What you want is a chisel tip (sometimes called screwdriver tip) as wide as the collector tab on the transistor, on a temperature controlled soldering iron. It does not need to be an adjustable temperature iron, but it should be a temperature controlled iron. The difference is that with a temperature controlled iron, you select a tip (I'm thinking of Weller WTCP and similar irons) that gives you a fixed temperature. With an adjustable one you have a knob (or up/down buttons) and a readout that lets you set it. In either case you want about 700 to 750 Fahrenheit. If you use too low a temperature you mess around too long and damage things. If you use too high a temperature you burn stuff up.

You want to get in, melt the solder, and wick it away quickly, and get out before you cause a lot of damage.

I suggest you find some scrap piece of equipment that has large pieces of copper (similarly sized as the power transistor tabs) soldered to the PCB and practice a bit unsoldering and resoldering on the expendable piece of scrap, before you get into your PA.

DE N6KB